Holidays to Switzerland Travel Podcast Episode 172 Transcript

How to Plan Your Switzerland Rail Vacation the Easy Way

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Intro: (Cowbells ringing) Welcome to the Holidays to Switzerland podcast. If you’re planning a trip to Switzerland, this is the podcast for you. I’m your host, Carolyn Schönafinger, the founder of holidaystoswitzerland.com and in each episode, my expert guests and I share practical tips to help you plan your dream trip to Switzerland. You’ll get helpful advice about traveling around Switzerland and hear about the most popular destinations, as well as some hidden gems. And we’ll introduce you to plenty of wonderful experiences that you can enjoy as part of your Swiss vacation. Each episode is packed with expert tips, itinerary ideas, and inspiration to help make your Swiss vacation planning easy. So let’s dive in. 

Carolyn Schönafinger: Grüezi, Hi there and welcome to this week’s episode. Early last year, today’s guest contacted me asking me for some advice about a trip to Switzerland that he was planning. Kristian Hedin lives in the same town as me, but whilst my husband knew him on a professional basis, I’d never met him before. So we arranged to meet and it was then that Kristian told me he listened to my podcast, well, small world, hey. And that he and his partner were planning to visit Switzerland later in the year.

Carolyn Schönafinger: As a first time visitor to Switzerland, Kristian was unsure where to start when it came to planning his trip, and I was thrilled to be able to help him. So Kristian and Robyn returned from their trip in October and he’s kindly agreed to chat to me today about their trip, from how they booked it to their itinerary, the highlights, and Kristian’s gonna share his tips for other first time visitors to Switzerland. So let’s hear from him. Good morning, Kristian, thank you very much for coming onto the podcast. Would you like to introduce yourself and tell. Tell our listeners a little bit about who you are, where you live, and perhaps your travel experience?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah. Okay, thanks. Thanks for having me on, Carolyn. Yeah, look, I live in Wangaratta in Northeast Victoria in Australia. Obviously, I grew up probably the first 10 years of my life up on Mount Buller, so I’ve always sort of had a bit of an affinity with the mountains and so that probably helped my travel thoughts. I was lucky enough to retire in June 2025 after selling the business and worked for a couple of years with new owners. And, and so, yeah, probably had a bit of the travel bug. And so I got to travel with my partner Robyn, who she’d been overseas before. She’d been to Europe before, but only briefly to Switzerland, but this was, this was my first time to Switzerland and first time to Europe, in fact.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay. All right. So why did you choose Switzerland to be one of the countries that you wanted to head to on your first European trip?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, obviously the mountains was one thing, but probably initially I saw a picture of Jungfraujoch, the top of Europe, and that probably piqued my interest and thought, oh yeah, I’d like to see that, but didn’t really know a lot more about Switzerland, but thought I’d like to sort of look into that.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, and what time of year did you visit Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: So we went in mid. Early mid August, stayed there for a couple of weeks, then went off and saw a bit more of Europe and actually came back to Switzerland in mid October. We got to see, in that August time frame, we got to see the end of summer and then when we went back, it was autumn and got to see the leaves changing, which was a beautiful thing. And a lot of the crowds had disappeared by then too. So that was good.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, good. Yeah. You certainly had a very long trip to Europe, which many Aussies are lucky enough to do. And we’ll talk more about that a bit later. But I think for a lot of first time travelers, when they start planning a trip to Switzerland, they’re overwhelmed by all the different rail passes that they can choose from. And then they often struggle knowing exactly which destinations they should include in their itinerary because as you said, you know, you see a picture and you think, oh, that looks great, I want to go there. And if you’re on social media, you just constantly seeing pictures of beautiful places. It’s not really possible to, to fit everything into one trip. So with all the different choices that there are available, is that why you decided to book a rail package for your. The Switzerland part of your trip?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, yeah, definitely. It was probably, as you said, after seeing the photos, you sort of say, yeah, I’d like to see that. But that probably piqued my interest and I started doing a bit of investigating, looking online, actually stumbled across your podcast, Carol, and started listening to that whenever I was driving somewhere, was listening to a lot of your podcasts and was lucky enough to sit down and have a chat with you just about a few things. But I think the idea of the rail package, where basically you got to do a loop of Switzerland and get a taste of a number of sites to see snippets of everything rather than trying to just focus on one particular area. But in saying that, we certainly spent a lot of time in, in a lot of the areas.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, yeah. Because later on you did come back to a couple of areas as well. Which, which we will talk about having that. Yeah, that taster you saw so many different regions, the different language speaking areas as well. So it really does give. Give people a good overview of, of everything Switzerland has to offer.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, definitely. Definitely, yeah.

Carolyn Schönafinger: So you booked your rail package with Switzerland Travel Center. Did you follow one of the suggested itineraries that they have on their website or did you customize it by adding additional nights in some of the places?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, the, we basically followed their itineraries but the package allowed so much flexibility where you could add nights here or there and just allowing you to pick a few places where you wanted to spend extra time but at the same time having it all organized for you. That was a really good thing, I think. Yeah.

Carolyn Schönafinger: And so what about accommodation? Did you have any input into the choice of hotels you could stay at or did you have to stick exactly with hotels recommended or, you know, already already packaged into the itinerary?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, when, when I first went onto the package, it sort of asked for what are your preferences? Whether it’s two, three, four star, you prefer first class or second class train travel. So basically how I did it, I, on their website I did a draft and then that allowed me to sort of go away and do a bit of research on some of the hotels and say, oh, you know, I prefer to stay in this place or that place. The package allowed that flexibility where you could do that. And then, you know, as I said, we had a chat with yourself and decided where we might spend extra nights or just spend one night. And you know, at the end of the day I think I probably did a couple of drafts before I came up with the final package that we were going to do. So the flexibility was amazing with the whole package, I think.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, that’s great. So it sounds like doing that on the website is quite easy. Is that what you found, that the whole booking process was pretty easy?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, it was, it was. And you know, as I said, we didn’t know, I think we said before, you know, that all these different packages and so forth didn’t know what to do. So we sort of started, started the process and had a look at what things were available, where we wanted to add days, but. And the website was just. Yeah, I thought that was really easy to work with and it allowed us to, to basically save a draft and then come back and edit that and add or change days as we went along.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, okay, that’s great. So once the trip was all booked and you’ve paid for everything, how far before you traveled, did you receive all the tickets and the hotel vouchers?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, from memory, it was about three weeks before we were leaving that they emailed through all the vouchers, copies of the tickets, so forth. And look, in reality, I think we did end up printing everything out, but in reality, everything was online and things like the hotel vouchers. Basically, you know, you turned up at a hotel, and they already knew you were. You were there. All the reservations were done for you. So that was. That was good, the train travel and so forth. You know, basically, they had. If you had it on your phone, the conductors just came along and scanned your barcodes, and everything was. Was good as you went along.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, so it was a very smooth process, arriving at hotels and traveling on the trains as well.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay. All right, well, let’s talk about the exciting part of your trip. What, what you actually did. Every day. You booked a classic grand train tour of Switzerland package. So can you give everyone listening a bit of an. Just an overview of the trip, and then perhaps we’ll get into what you did each day in. In more detail.

Kristian Hedin: Yep. Okay. So. So basically, we. We flew into Zurich and. And had a couple of nights in Zurich before we started the trip, the train tour. And we then went on to Lucerne, Interlaken, had had a couple of nights in Interlaken, three nights here, I think it was, then onto Montreux, had one night there, had three nights in Zermatt after that, then crossed to St. Moritz, had one night there, around to Lugano, two nights there, and then on to Lucerne and. And had two nights here to sort of finish the train trip. And look, as part of the train package, you got your first day. You got travel from anywhere in Switzerland to your first destination. And on your last day, you got travel from wherever you were to anywhere in Switzerland after that. So that was a really good thing as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, so after you’d been in Lucerne, where did you go with that free train trip?

Kristian Hedin: We actually went to Lauterbrunnen. So we’d been to Interlaken and seen a little bit around the Interlaken area, and that was really good. We didn’t get to Lauterbrunnen at that point in time, and so we’d sort of seen where we wanted to go back to and thought, yeah, well, that’d be nice. So we went back to Lauterbrunnen for five, four nights. It was. Yeah. So I’d like to give a bit of a shout out again to the Stella Hotel in Interlaken, stored some luggage for us. So that was really fantastic and allowed us, when we went back to Lauterbrunnen to pick up their bags again and go on from there.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Oh, okay, great. So when, when you booked the package and, and you were deciding whether to travel in first or second class on the train, what did you opt for? And, and were you happy with that decision?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, we, we chose to go first class. It wasn’t that much dearer, but I’m not a reasonably tall fellow and I sort of thought, yeah, it’ll give us a bit of, bit of extra leg room and so forth. But again, from what we saw of second class, it was, it was the trains were pretty good. We were planning on spending three months overseas, so we probably thought we’d take the, the better option, I suppose, if you wanted to put it that way. But. And as part of the package too, we were able to do the luggage transfer, which allowed you to basically drop your, your bags down at the hotel reception each morning and head off on your. On your journey. Sometimes we were able to spend more time in the morning at different places and then head off on the train. And when you get to your hotel that night, basically your room, your. Your bags are in the room for you, waiting for you. So that just saved the worry of having to cart bags around everywhere where you went.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, good. And what were some of the highlights that you. Perhaps the excursions or the things that you saw at. At the different places that you stayed at?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, so as I said, we spent a bit of time in Interlaken. We went up to Jungfraujoch and that was a really good experience. We’d actually booked that through the train tour, so that was all organized for us. That was a fantastic experience, going up there and seeing that.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Did it live up to what you expected from the photos that you’d seen?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, it did. And it was one of those days where it sort of started off, you weren’t sure what the weather was going to be like and the sun came out and it was a beautiful experience. Yeah, so fantastic. But it was interesting. Yeah, that was probably our first experience at altitude. Really hit us and. Or didn’t hit us bad, but it was just a case of, yeah, you can’t run up the stairs as fast as what you used to. When you. When you’re at three and a half thousand meters, it’s a little bit different. But then look, each place where we stopped at like Montreux, we Only had a day at Montreux, but one of the, one of the things we discovered when we were at Interlaken, there’s all these hotels and regions give you the. Basically it’s a local public transport travel pass and it allows you to travel on the, on the local public transport for free. And at Montreux, we had, the morning before we traveled to Zermatt, we got to travel around the, the Montreux area and that was fantastic. Got to see a few places just using the free public transport.

Kristian Hedin: So that was amazing as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, and what about in Zermatt? Did you do any excursions there?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, we had had three nights in Zermatt and that was again, that was another amazing mountain experience. Getting up into the mountains at nearly, nearly 4,000 meters. Matterhorn, Glacier Paradise, Gornergrat, the Five Lakes, walks, you know, just. And, and again, at the hotel, they were able to organize the, the path for all those three things. When we, when we arrived there, we just sort of mate. I asked them what was the best way to do these things and they said they can organize the passes for us and they organized all that for us as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Right from there, you went on the slowest express train in the world, the Glacier Express, all the way to St. Moritz. What was that like?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look again, the train travel all through Switzerland was amazing and that was another amazing journey. And yeah, it’s sort of hard to remember all of the things you saw along the way. And we took probably a thousand photos along the way, but it was just an amazing journey. As you say, it’s the slowest, slowest express, but it gives you a chance to relax and take in the scenery along the way. So that was a great experience as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. And from there you headed down to Lugano, to the Italian speaking part of Switzerland. How did you find that? It’s like, it’s quite different. Feel like you’re in Italy, but. But you’re still in Switzerland.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, yeah. And it’s funny you say that because in Montreal it felt like you were in France because it was very, very French. A lot of French speaking areas. But Lugano, yeah, that was another really great place. We again, through the, through the local public transport ticket, we got over to Locarno, which was another place on a lake, and then, then came back and up to Monte San Salvatore, had lunch up there. It was a mountaintop and you got to climb up the top of this, on top of this church basically under the roof and you got a 360 degree view of the area. And you could see basically as far. You could actually see Milan in the distance. It was that far. That good of view that you got.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. Wow. You must have had such a clear day.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, it was amazing.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Great. Okay, and from there you headed back to Lucerne. Did you do any of the mountain excursions in from Lucerne?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, yeah, we did. And look, even the trip to Lucerne was amazing. That was the Gothard Express. There’s, again, some of the amazing train engineering that they’ve got over there in Switzerland where they do these. I think it’s four loops of a tunnel on the way up and then three loops in the tunnel on the way down, going over a mountain range. And then we got to have a boat ride into Lucerne, which was an amazing experience as well, to be on a lake and looking up at these mountains all around. So, yeah, when we’re in Lucerne, we had a day up at Mount Pilatus, which I honestly didn’t know too much about before we went. And I know you’d spoken about it on a podcast, but I probably didn’t know what to expect when we went up there. And, yeah, look, it was amazing going up there. It was. You know, there’s this massive amusement area on the way up and with climbing and toboggan rides. And I sort of. I think I messaged my kids when I was there and said, look, if I ever went that slot, I’m going to bring you all here.

Kristian Hedin: Because there was so much to see and do. But then, yeah, up the top of Pilatus again, you know, a couple of walks up onto the peaks there. That was amazing. And. And then the steepest cogwheel train on the way down, which was another experience again.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, it’s a pretty special day out, isn’t it, going up to Mount Pilatus.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, Lyceum was a lovely, lovely place as well, on the river, you know, probably didn’t. Again, didn’t have too many preconceived ideas. And so it was. It was really amazing experience.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, good. So the Grand Train tour of Switzerland, the itinerary that you did, that includes all five of what are known as the premium panoramic trains. The Lucerne Interlaken Express, the Golden Pass Express, which you took from Interlaken to Montreux, then the Glacier Express, the Bernina Express from St Moritz down to Lugano or to Tirano, but then a bus connection to Lugano, and then the Gothard Panorama Express that you just talked about from Lugano, with the combined Boat ride back to Lucerne. So does one of those stand out as your favorite trip?

Kristian Hedin: Look, it’s funny, I think somebody over there said to me, oh, you know what, what was your favorite part? And I said, oh, it’s like choosing your favorite who’s your favorite son or who’s your favorite child. Each of them were spectacular in their own way and they all had their own sort of appeal and highlights and we’d, we’d be traveling along and sort of wondering whether anything could get better. And next thing around the corner there was something another stunning view of a Swiss village or a stunning mountain view or. And again, as I said, you know, some of the stunning engineering feats on some of the railways was amazing as well. So I wouldn’t like to pick one of the. One of the favorites. I would say they all were okay.

Carolyn Schönafinger: They’re all a little bit different and all have their own charms, I guess.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Carolyn Schönafinger: And with those premium panoramic trains, a few of them require mandatory seat reservations. So a good thing that you probably appreciated with the rail package is that those seat reservations are made for you so you don’t have to worry about doing that yourself.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, exactly, exactly. That just takes all those, all that extra thought out of the equation and that was all organized. And as I said, I think one of them originally, they could only get second class tickets, but they said, oh, look, we’ll keep an eye out. And then probably a week before we left, they emailed through and said, no, no, they’ve been able to get the first class tickets. So again, they were all organizing everything there, the travel, the seat reservations, et cetera. And probably one thing I didn’t mention with all the hotels, basically they all organized your transfer to and from the hotels. They all had their little bus transfers. So if you were further away from the train station, all the hotels were, we’re more than accommodating with transferring you to and from stations as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: That’s great because often, like if you’re booking a hotel directly yourself or on one of the booking platforms, you then have to contact the hotel and say, this is the train I’m arriving on. Can you come and pick me up? And so to have someone do that for you, that. That takes a lot of work off. Off you as well.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, yeah. And having someone look out for those first class seats. Imagine if you had to log on every day and see. Yeah. See if any had become available. Yeah, yep, that’s good. Okay, so you did the package and then, then you went on and stayed those four nights in Lauterbrunnen, as you said. Then you had a massive trip. You know, other things that you did, you went to Italy, you went to Greece. Where else did you go before you returned to Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: Italy, Greece, into Austria. Then. Yeah, so then we had. We’re always flying in and out of Zurich, so we sort of thought, okay, we’ll get back to, to Switzerland. And before we went, we’d done a bit of research again and seen this Stoos Ridge walk and it looked stunning and thought, oh, yeah, we’d like to do that. And we thought, you know, when we’re in Lucerne, we might have tried to do that, but we didn’t get time to do that. And so when we were sort of tripping around, we thought, well, where will we go back to and stay in Switzerland for the last five or six nights? And Robyn had come across a place in Stoos where we could stay. And we thought that looked like a good idea. Nice relaxing into the, into the holiday. And that was amazing. Yeah, again, you know, it was probably something that we didn’t necessarily plan originally to stay there. And it was a little bit of a. We kept sort of looking as we were going, where would we end up? But it was a. It was a great end to the trip. Yeah. Doing that.

Kristian Hedin: We. We ended up doing this. The Stoos Ridge Walk. And, and yeah, it was certainly an amazing walk. And. And it didn’t. Didn’t let our expectations down at all.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, great. Okay. So for those listening that don’t know where this, where you do the Stoos Ridge Walk is, can you tell them whereabouts it is?

Kristian Hedin: Okay. Yeah. So it’s about. It’s probably about half an hour out of. Or half an hour, three quarters an hour out of Lucerne. And actually when we, when we’re doing the, the boat trip from. On the last part of the train tour, we sort of looked up and, and saw the mountains where it was and, and then. Then when we were on the ridge, we could actually look down and see the lake and see the boats doing the, doing the, those tours on the, on the lake. But yeah, so it was, it was probably wasn’t 100% straightforward to get there. It was probably a train, a bus, and then a funicular up the, up the mountain, which again, that was a good part of the journey. It’s. It’s the, the. I think it’s the steepest funicular in the world. They say going up to that you could do it in a. Could do it in a day trip from Lucerne. But you know, it was probably just something we thought, oh, you know, it’d be a nice relaxing thing to sit up on the mountain and have a couple of days up in the, in the mountains.

Kristian Hedin: The walk, its, was as I said, was amazing. It. I think it’s listed as probably an hour and a half, two hour walk, but I think that’s probably for the young and, and the fit that don’t want to stop and, and have snacks and take photos and so forth. So, so we end up, look, it took us about four hours but as I said we had a lot of stops and I think on that day I took something like 200 photos just on the walk itself. So, so that was, that was an amazing thing to finish basically finish our holiday on.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, yeah. Great. And, and was the, is the walk difficult? Like it’s as you. It’s. The name says it’s, it’s along a ridge. Is it, was it scary or did you find it feel quite safe?

Kristian Hedin: Oh look, it’s, there’s some pretty steep, steep drops on either side. It’s. I wouldn’t have said it was scary. There was some, there were some steep parts and so forth, but it’s pretty well, well maintained. Probably one of the things we nearly got caught out on. We were there in October and it was only one morning I got up and said, oh, we might do the walk. And I’d seen that the chairlift up to the top of the ridge because basically you go up to the left of the ridge, walk across the ridge and then there’s another chairlift coming down on the right side. But the chairlift on the left was only going to run on the weekends after a certain date in October. So we’re probably lucky that we were there on that day and got up there and got to do the full walk. But yeah, it certainly, it was challenging, but I think somebody with a moderate level of fitness would be able to get there, no worries. And there was certainly plenty of people along the way doing the walk. You can do a sort of shorter version of it, but yeah, it was, it was certainly one of the highlights.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. Good, Excellent. Okay, so what were some of the other highlights of your time in Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: Oh look, certainly Pilatus. I think I mentioned that. That was amazing. And look, you know, the whole, probably the whole experience and just seeing how some of the, I guess in Northeast Victoria and in Australia we have some mountains but nothing to the scale of what there is over there and just the scenery was just Amazing the whole way around.

Carolyn Schönafinger: So were there, I guess maybe the scenery fits into this category. But was there anything that surprised you about Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: Certainly, yeah, the scenery was one thing, probably. The other things that surprised me was how easy it was to get around on the trains, how efficient they were and. Yeah, just the ease of getting around and people talk about the Swiss timing and the Swiss efficiency and that was certainly on show it. I think we definitely. The SBB Rail app is just an amazing thing. It’s just so easy to get around and travel through Switzerland.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, for sure. Okay, so when we’re talking about the Switzerland part of your holiday, is there anything that you wish you had have done differently?

Kristian Hedin: I don’t think I would have done too much differently. I’d like to go back and do something similar in winter. Cause I guess we saw it in summer and then a little bit of autumn at the end of it. So. Yeah, definitely. I’d like to. I’d like to see it in, in winter or when there was a. I mean, there was a lot of snow around, but even in, in summer. But I’d like to see it when it’s, when it’s full on winter. So. And look, the ease of getting around. I think I meant to mention at the start, you know, when we’re in, in Zurich, we. One day we just went down to the, to the train station and there was an information center there and just sort of asked a few questions about things to do and ended up going up to the Rhine Falls, doing a bit of a trip up in the, in the northern part of the northeast part of Switzerland as well. So I think you just gotta go and ask. And people are so helpful over there as well.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, great. Okay, so before I let you go, have you got some tips for any of our listeners who are thinking about exploring Switzerland by train? And do you recommend booking a rail package for people going to Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, look, definitely, if you’re going there, particularly if you’re going there for the first time, I’d absolutely do the rail package because it just gives you, as I said, it gives you a taste of everything in it. You get to see so many regions and so much of the country. And whilst it’s a relatively small country, there is so much to see. Other things. Yeah, other things, as I said, definitely get the SBB Rail app because it was just so easy. If you ever wanted to book a day trip somewhere or a trip anywhere, you just jumped on there and you could, you could book it and basically pay for it as you’re walking to the train station if you wanted to, or you could book it the day or the night before and you could even book funiculars and cable cars and everything like that. The other thing is, yeah, when you, when you’re staying there to use those local tourist cards that they give you for the free public transport, we had a, we had a couple of really good days where we just sort of jumped on, on the public transport and basically saw where we, we could get to and, and turned out to see some, some really good things along the way.

Kristian Hedin: The other thing is. Yeah, look, one thing we did basically for the whole trip in Europe, we had had eSIMs on our, on our phones and it just allowed us to keep in contact with family at home and you know, we were able to actually share some really good mountaintop experiences. Calling home and talking to people and talking to family and friends from the top of some of these amazing mountains as well while we’re there and, and experience it in real time.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Fantastic. Oh, that’s awesome. Well, yeah, it sounds like you had an amazing trip and I’m glad that I was just able to give you even just a little bit of help and offer a bit of advice. So, yeah, thank you now for coming on and, and sharing all that with, with all our listeners.

Kristian Hedin: No worries at all, Carolyn. And as I said, thanks for your help. And again, I’d say to any listeners, keep listening to the podcasts and I’m sure Carolyn would be happy if you contact her and say, have you got any ideas on this area or that area? And she’d be more than happy to help.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so one final question. Are there plans for another trip to Switzerland?

Kristian Hedin: Look, there’s certainly plans for another trip to Europe and, and part of that involves going back to Switzerland. Yes, definitely. So there’s a lot to say.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Glad to hear it. Maybe in winter.

Kristian Hedin: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think that’s, that’s. Well, that’s my goal anyway. I’d like to, like to go back and see the winter side of things.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, fantastic. Well, thank you and all the best.

Kristian Hedin: No worries. Thanks, Carolyn. Thank you.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Booking a rail package was the perfect option for first time visitors Kristian and Robyn. Whilst they still had the flexibility to customize their itinerary and choose the hotels they stayed in, they were able to save hours of time and hassle by having all the major components of their trip. That’s train tickets, seat reservations, luggage transfers, accommodation and even some mountain excursions booked for them. And by using the holidays to Switzerland exclusive promo code they received 5% off the cost of the rail package. You can benefit from the discount too when you quote the code HTSWISS when booking your package online. And if you’re not comfortable booking online, you can contact Switzerland Travel Center by email and arrange your trip that way. Just remember to mention the promo code in your first email to them and you’ll also qualify for the discount. You’ll find a copy of Kristian and Robyn’s itinerary in the show notes for this episode, along with links to more rail package itineraries offered by Switzerland Travel Center and their contact details too. The Holidays to Switzerland promo code can be found in the show notes as well. And if you’ve got any questions about the rail packages that are offered by Switzerland Travel Center, who by the way, are a trusted partner of Holidays to Switzerland, send me an email to helloolidaystoswitzerland.com and I’d be happy to answer the questions for you.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Thank you so much for tuning in today. I’ll be back next week with more Swiss travel tips and inspiration, so until then, Tschüss.

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